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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 2, 2010 4:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

"On a roll, the band returned to Portland to play two nights at the Crystal Ballroom, the local version of the Fillmore or Avalon. The Crystal was an old-time dance hall with a sprung floor built on ball bearings, and it, too, had been booked in the early sixties by the Fillmore's Charles Sullivan with soul artists like James Brown and Marvin Gaye. Open as a "hippie" scene only from January 1967 to July 1968, the Crystal's two Quick/Dead shows were among the high points in the room's history. The Dead enjoyed themselves, too; Garcia left the box office lady a joint, which she thought was her best tip ever, even though she didn't smoke"
Dennis McNally

The Tour of the Great Northwest continues with another performance that swings and has to be considered among the very best of 1968...

This incendiary Violas is simply one of the best ever. The ultra jazzy Clementine, included in the So Many roads boxed set, is quite a bit different from the Eureka performance. They have slowed it down, this one shuffles along marvelously. Weir still has not completely worked out The Other One, but the 15 minute Schoolgirl, with two dynamite harp breaks is superb! Dont forget there is a fine early Dark Star from this show included as a bonus track on Road Trips II/2. What else are we missing?

Oh how I wish there was more music here from this amazing tour...

2/2/68 - Crystal Ballroom Portland, OR

Viola Lee Blues > Feedback > Cryptical Envelopment > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment > Clementine > Good Morning Little School Girl

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-02-02.sbd.miller.97345.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: BVD Date: Feb 2, 2010 6:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

Yeah. That Dark Star your referring to is amazing!Rest of the show ain't bad either! Is 68 the most important year in their history?

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Poster: Skobud Date: Feb 2, 2010 7:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

I think it is. The experimentation that was going during this little stretch on was remarkable. I think the boys were defining themselves unbeknownst to them. That is the real beauty of going with the flow. Think about it, just going with how you feel and letting the results speak for themselves. The music is evolving as you are playing, and at the same time the content is becoming heavier and heavier…….

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Feb 2, 2010 1:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

By this point in history, their main jam tunes of the next 3 years have been introduced and they are beginning to explore them. The new tunes are written in a much more psychedelic style and are pushing the band to play way outside the conventions of blues/r&b/rock.

Things are starting to unravel in a very nice way :)

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Poster: Skobud Date: Feb 2, 2010 6:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

I agree. Imagine that.

Dead at the Crystal front


Dead at the crystal back





This post was modified by Skobud on 2010-02-02 14:26:53

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 3, 2010 11:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

I like that picture so much.

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Poster: bbbrew Date: Feb 2, 2010 5:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and one more geeky pic

This is the dressingroom used by the boys and many other "hippy" icons in the day.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 2, 2010 6:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and one more geeky pic

Those photos are not geeky, they are way cool!

Thank you for sharing!

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Poster: bbbrew Date: Feb 2, 2010 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...


I just love mashing-in to this Viola's in the morning, along with the 1-20 Viola's. Great way to start the day.

The GMLSC from this show is an all time fav of mine because of the harp work.

The brewer at Ringers (the bar attatched to the Crystal Ballroom) uses this mash tun.

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Poster: spring mountain high Date: Feb 2, 2010 12:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

did the 68/69/70 trifecta today...great stuff

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 2, 2010 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...


Yeah that 70 show is the stuff - way too bad about the truncated Mason's. Ds > St St > Mason's is effin unreal!!!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 2, 2010 8:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...



So Cliff & Tell - what is the story with the other 2/2 show that apparently was thought to be 1/23? I listened to the Clementines and they sound different even though one reviewer thinks they may be the same.

Good stuff either way

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-02-02.sbd.jools.20299.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 2, 2010 3:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

I always thought that Jools file dated 2/2/68 was actually what circulates as 1/23/68 or at least some portion of that show. LRosley is frequently wrong about things in his reviews! But who knows?

Bonus material on Road Trips II/2 is credited as 1/23/68 on that release, but there is no hard evidence that the Grateful Dead ever performed on that date, even at the show archives at dead.net

We may never know the true dates of some of these shows?

Perhaps light into ashes has some ideas about this and will chime in...

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Feb 2, 2010 8:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

The jools file jglynn linked is indeed a mislabeled copy of 1/23/68. Which I said in the "February 2, 1968" thread a few days ago.
I could be wrong, though. Didn't actually listen to all of it to make sure.

We had a debate last year on the whole Seattle-dates thing, and I posted my thoughts there:
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=241543

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 3, 2010 7:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

Thanks LiA

These early 68's really are something

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Poster: Arck Date: Feb 2, 2010 6:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

The 22nd/23rd and 26th/27th debate bugs me constantly. I would love to know because...well I don't know why. I just want to know.

I emailed David L about it and he said the label on the tapes they acquired and used for the Road Trips release indicated they were from the 23rd.

That alone should be as conclusive as possible in demonstrating there was a show on 23 Feb. However, there's the poster evidence that they played on 26th and 27th but not the 22nd and 23rd. It also seems more likely that they played on the later dates as there would otherwise by a nearly week-long gap in the tour dates. I reckon it's more likely they played in CA on 17th and 20th, then went on tour from 26th-4th Feb.

David L also said he didn't think it would ever be possible to say one way or the other which dates they played and that the 23rd labelling was the best they had to go by.

Surely someone, somewhere knows for sure? Someone that attended, someone that worked there and has a pay slip or something. There might even be reviews of shows on 26th and 27th. Newspapers might not always be 100% reliable but if there is a contemporary review saying they played the previous night or something, that has to be a good guide.

Hmmm, now I'm all worked up about it again.

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Poster: bbbrew Date: Feb 2, 2010 3:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

Excellent quote Cliff. When I recently visited the Crystal Ballroom the door gal would not let me into the ballroom due to a wedding reception being held inside. I should have offered her a joint. Fortunatly, after some smooth talk, a bartender took mercy on me and let me in to cruise the halls.

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Poster: BVD Date: Feb 2, 2010 6:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

BTW...Nice work Sko!

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 2, 2010 1:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

Didn't Gans take the GMLS and splice iton to the next night's tape? Reason?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Feb 2, 2010 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

When Gans originally broadcast 2/2/68, he substituted the Schoolgirl from 2/3, probably because the Schoolgirl from 2/2 cuts off before the end.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 3, 2010 6:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

Got 'em backwards, but yeah. I kind of thought that was a little "sleazy" for Ganz--whose authenticity, taste, and credibility I would never question. I can see its making sense to have the "suite" run uncut. But so many of those tapes are cut all over that it wouldn't have been so bad. Does a "proper tape" exist?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Feb 3, 2010 1:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

Well, as I said in the other thread, Miller's copy is the closest to the source -
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-02-02.sbd.miller.97345.sbeok.flac16

HOWEVER - his Schoolgirl cuts after only two minutes!
So Gans would have to substitute a different Schoolgirl if he wanted to play one.

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Poster: csaw44 Date: Feb 2, 2010 2:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - A treasure from '68 and a joint from Garcia...

cliff you're a genius